Everything went wrong on earth. The men lost thier way, and hence they do not have in touch what they are supposed to do. Thus communication with God is diminished as well, and thus prone to more collossal errors of judgment.

There is a difference between what churches tell us, then what the Bible tell us. This is what prompted me to write to all the parishes in my country Malta:

http://100777.com/spiritual/lettertoparishpriest

Just because you have issues with the Bible, does not mean that the Bible is in error, because it is not.

Read this please.

1 Corinthians
11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

There was never a female disciple of Christ. You do not find it in the Bible (the Real Bible with all the other ones, such as theh Gospel of Philip and Thomas which are not there, plus Enoch etc.)

When reading 1 Corinthians the order is simple:
11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

Therefore there is the above order, God the Father is the head and of a higher ranking than the Son. The above order is established by God, but the church thinks otherwise and thinks it knows better.

This is quite late but I don’t often visit this site

When I said ’seed’ I did not mean that literally. What I meant was that Satan sowed seeds of disobedience to God (and rejecting her husband’s authority, in that context) into her mind and heart when he suggested to her that everything God (and her husband I believe) had said about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil could be challenged…

Truly there is a hierarchy of authority set up by God Himself. The problem for the men is they rarely submit to God’s commands to them, yet always struggle to make women submit to their own interpretation of a ‘woman’s place’.

How many of us men (I mean Believers, who have the words of God in the Bible) actually love our wives “like Christ loved the church and gave himself for her”? If we were to do this, truly, it would be an example to the world of Christ’s love for us, and also the Love of the Father, who sent him.

The Christian marriage is meant to be an ‘evangelism’ opportunity, a display of the will of the Creator and of the unity of Christ with His Church, in the covenant between a man and a woman (Ephesians 5:31). That higher purpose is lost and forgotten in the sensual and procreational focus and perception we have now about marriage.

Hosea was asked to marry an unfaithful woman to show Israel how God continued to love them in spite of their unfaithfulness. In a much deeper way, when we marry we are taking up the role of proclaiming the love of Christ for mankind by our devotion for each other, thus drawing men to Him.

Let us never forget this high calling…

Just saw this, but I think you make a thought-provoking point.

What a wonderful place to come and check out issues. Thanks Perry for opening up this platform.

My daughter wears a head covering because she takes literally the verse about covering the head.

Some chick at church came up to her, with her breasts heaving out of her shirt, and told my little girl that her headwrap was a perversion. INSANE!

To be sure, if she would have worn short shorts and had a pierce nose, than no one would have approached her.

But that’s not what I wanted to write about…

I wanted to say that because women have been mistreated by men, they think submission is a non-issue.
Let’s face it. Men don’t lead. Men who do lead usually end up abusing their priestly authority in the home, lording it over their wife to get their own demands met.

I think Perry has the right perspective on this…when men start loving their wife as Christ love;s the church,
when my start leading from example instead of leading from the recliner “urp…someone bring me more rootbeer.”
Then, women will respect them.

The challenge is to respect men in the meantime,,,
signed,
challenged in the midwest

It is impossible to compress a liquid. (hydraulics )

A spinning liquid consisting of melted rock,is it logical to expect that it would eventual float on the less dense in layer of melted rock . If it is possible why don’t volcanoes rip the thin other crust apart.

Johan